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McGroarty Issued 'No-Trespass Order' at Mill Creek After Pledge Dispute

The parent who disrupted a kindergarten class Wednesday at Mill Creek Elementary School has been issued a no-trespass order to the school. His Facebook posts indicate his opinions about the Pledge of Allegiance.

The parent who entered Mill Creek Elementary School and engaged in an argument over the Pledge of Allegiance has been issued a no-trespass order, which means he may no longer legally enter the school or set foot on its property, the Kane County Sheriff's Office confirmed on Thursday.

Colin M. McGroarty's public Facebook bio and comments, meanwhile, explain in greater detail his point of view regarding the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in the elementary school.

McGroarty has strong opinions, formed in part by his service in the 12th Special Forces Group (Airborne).

McGroarty is a consultant in the technology industry. His business, McGroarty Consulting Group, is located in Rockford and has been around since September 2002, according to his business' Facebook page. He was a Skillsoft application engineer in New Hampshire from 2006 to 2009, worked as a consultant for Orbitz from 2005 to 2006 and served in the 12th Special Forces Group (Airborne) in Arlington Heights, his Facebook page says.

He has an MBA from University of Phoenix, completed in 2008 and had a grade-point average of 3.87, according to the Facebook page.

He's divorced, which explains why he has a Rockford address while his children live in Mill Creek. 

He's also not shy about sharing his thoughts via social media.

His original post on Facebook, which is public, seems to indicate he didn't know the words to the Pledge of Allegiance. He writes:

The NEW pledge of allegiance has been modified at the end. Instead of ending in, “with life, liberty, and justice for all,” the NEW pledge of allegiance now ends with:

“…with justice for all (life and liberty are no longer part of the pledge) and I will obey all rules and follow all commands given to me by my teachers.”

He later qualifies that message in a comment thread, saying his concern is that there is no break between the Pledge of Allegiance and the Mill Creek Elementary School Creed:

My perception is that some teachers, faculty, or school systems are exploiting what is essentially a loophole that allows them to modify the Pledge of Allegiance by tacking additional verbiage to the end and calling it a separate item. In my humble opinion (and PSYOP missions are nothing new to me courtesy of my military time) it is still indoctrination that is training children to blindly follow rules.

McGroarty's Facebook Post From Wednesday, Jan. 9

McGroarty's Facebook post asks readers to "Please SHARE with EVERYONE."

"NEVER have I been ANGRIER, more SCARED, or more UPSET than I am today," it says. "I walked into my children’s elementary school today to hear the children reciting the NEW pledge of allegiance ...

"This is the same method in which fascism was introduced into schools prior to the Hitler Youth movement of Germany. If people can’t draw the connections then God help us all.

"The school where I witnessed this is Mill Creek Elementary School in Geneva, IL (Kane County). The principal was unwilling to discuss the issue."

In the post, McGroarty explains that he is divorced, but he and his ex-wife disagree on school issues.

"Please pray for me that I’m successful in getting my children moved to a private school or to a home school environment. I’d even consider letting my children return to Mill Creek Elementary School so long as my wife and I both sign a letter excusing my children from any such activities."

McGroarty's Followup Comment Posted Thursday, Jan. 10

One of McGroarty's concerns, he said, is that kindergarten and first-grade students recite the pledge differently than other students.

"While I will argue that this is NOT what I heard in the kindergarten classroom on January 9, 2013, at Mill Creek Elementary School in Geneva, IL, I have no way to prove it. I also still question why I was advised by a Mill Creek Elementary School faculty member that kindergarten and first grade say the Pledge of Allegiance differently than other grades.

"So, let’s for sake of argument operate from the standpoint that I heard incorrectly. I am still no less concerned that the children would be reciting the (pledge and school motto) with hands on heart facing the flag and NO BREAK between the two items." 

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Bob Johnson January 12, 2013 at 03:33 PM
No, the truth lies in his facebook page. Read a few of the comments, stroll through a few of the albums and then come back and tell us you think this was probably an overreaction to a parent's legitimate and reasonable concerns. It's not slander when you post crazy, fringe things for all to see in a public forum like facebook. You think people would have learned this by now. Hopefully, the authorities have taken note of this timebomb before it goes off.
Steve January 12, 2013 at 03:43 PM
To "Ignacio Steen" the University of Pheonix is a REAL University and is highly thought of in Tech companies. I've worked in the tech industry for 30 years and have run into UofP grads many times. As for the Dad's quote on how the pledge goes - "life, liberty, and justice for all," He got it wrong too! "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." According to Wikipedia it has been modified 4 times since originally being made "official" by an act of Congress.
Ray Echer January 12, 2013 at 05:26 PM
Why wasn't he issued no tresspass to any school? I understand why he's angry, though. If it is true that those children have to say something along the lines of "I will obey anything my teacher commands me to do", then it is a little absurd; I personally feel like this statement might change the child's view on reality, where it could lead them to being hurt if they are willing to do anything authority (true or not) says. Now, I'm not crazy like this guy, but even I think that shouldn't be added into the pledge. I don't believe that anyone should have to say the pledge (being religious differences, or not), but if you're living here in the US, you should definitely stand and respect this country.
LC January 12, 2013 at 05:34 PM
Jane and Bob are correct. "The writting is on the wall," figuratively speaking. There is no "media spin," Colin's tirade was witnessed by children and teachers. His FB page is inflamatory and uncensored. He blew it.
Pam Bollweg January 12, 2013 at 05:47 PM
Ignacio Steen: if you read his Linked In resume, he did not do "vacation planning" at Orbitz. He was a Senior Network Engineer. You say his military exploits are false. Do you have any proof of that? If you don't, then you are guilty of libel. Personally, I think he's suffering from some sort of manic episode considering his reaction to the pledge thing, but there is no reason to make up false accusations about him. You called him a liar, and I'm saying that you are describing yourself.
Pam Bollweg January 12, 2013 at 06:35 PM
Samcar, I agree he sounds somewhat manic. And I will agree that his LinkedIn profile is much more detailed than most. Being self-employed, I'm sure he is looking for clients and in this economy maybe he is just using everything he has to sell himself / attract new clients to make a living for himself and his family. Having said that, if I were looking for a company to do what his company does, I would find his resume a bit over-the-top and keep on looking. Just as with the pledge incident I think he "doth protest too much", with his resume I think he "doth glorify himself too much". I do get the feeling that Mr McGroarty is not a person who is willing to compromise on anything. In my opinion, good business relationships require both parties to be open to each other, listening to each other, and willing to negotiate and to consider all options. For that reason and yes, the blatant display of grandiosity, I would look for a different engineering consultant were I to need one. Mr McGroarty, if you are reading this please do not be offended, but consider what I am saying to you in good faith and with no ill will.
EnoughAlready January 12, 2013 at 07:28 PM
My children do not say anything remotely near "I will obey anything my teacher commands me to do" at Mill Creek. After the school recites the pledge together as a whole (via the intercom), they recite a school creed which states "In order to develop good citizens, we believe that every person should treat others with respect, follow school and classroom rules, and try your best." This creed summarizes the positive atmosphere you want in a school so that educational instruction can occur...no bullying, respecting others, listening to students and teachers, always trying your best. This is not training children to follow blindly, it is reminding students that respect is expected. The afternoon kindergarten class recites their pledge of allegiance alone, not with the entire school, because they obviously have a separate start time. So yes, the afternoon kindergarten has a "separate" pledge only because they are not saying it with the entire school and has nothing to do with the words being changed.
Curt Rice January 12, 2013 at 09:07 PM
Leave the man alone, anyone who is talking about him that knows him seems to say he is a stand up guy. His timing is definatley off and im sure that looking back he regrets his actions. The last time I checked having a goofy Facebook page was not against the law. Im glad I live in a community that a parent yelling at a teacher is front page news. Two people were strangled and dimembered yesterday by 4 teens in Joliet. Now THATS Scary stuff.
JC January 12, 2013 at 09:20 PM
As a former member of the very same military unit it is disturbing that the author attributes this one man's beliefs to one unit in which he served. This was very irresponsible on the author's part. Reporting this incident did not call for the reporter to interject his personal bias, the editor allowed it to go through. I challenge the patch to find any evidence that would indicate that the unit has anything to do with this man's beliefs.
Pam Bollweg January 12, 2013 at 09:51 PM
JC, I don't think the reporter is attributing Mr McGroarty's beliefs to the one unit in which he served. He is only stating that Mr McGroarty attributes part of his beliefs to serving in that unit. There is a big difference. To quote the reporter: "McGroarty has strong opinions, formed in part by his service in the 12th Special Forces Group (Airborne)." And to quote Mr McGroarty: "In my humble opinion (and PSYOP missions are nothing new to me courtesy of my military time) it is still indoctrination that is training children to blindly follow rules." So you see, the reporter is merely trying to explain to his readers his understanding of what was in McGroarty's mind, based on McGroarty's Facebook post. Give the reporter a break. This is the most complete and accurate account of the incident I've been able to find on the internet.
Kev January 12, 2013 at 10:06 PM
What obscenities did he shout?
JC January 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM
Pam I do not see where you got the quote you are attributing to Mr. McGroarty but if this is what the reporter was referencing he, as a professional journalist should know, should have referenced said quote. The quote you posted from the article does not qualify the statement as anything more than the reporter's assessment. I do agree that the reporter has thoroughly covered this incident but the one line you quoted is at minimal an irresponsible mistake at most it is demostrative of an anti-military sentiment that I find offensive. Just anther example of how one statement can be perceived differently by different people.
Pam Bollweg January 13, 2013 at 03:03 AM
If you scroll up, the quote is there. It is part of a paragraph which is indented and italicized. And I do agree that one statement can certainly be perceived differently by different people.
Thomas Kibort January 13, 2013 at 04:29 AM
Stop with the dumping on this guy already. If the pledge was altered at the end without pause to add the school creed or whatever it is called, then that was not wise on the school's part. If that is the case, then the concerned father and veteran has every right to express his displeasure in an appropriate way, without language. But I have not clearly heard what the father said that was objectionable. And the politically correct Kommisars should not criticize his political views. Last time I checked, it wasn't against the law to have them and express them, at least not yet. Perhaps if more Chicago liberal socialist Democrat diaspora leave the shining example of their failed governing ideas and invade Geneva and the surrounding area, that will change with time.
Melother January 13, 2013 at 05:03 AM
When the incident in question occurred, he felt the need to blow up his "concerned father" opinion in front of an entire class of kindergartners highlighted with inappropriate language. He immediately removed both his children from the school and sent an email to parents, faculty and the school board. His Facebook page which is COMPLETELY PUBLIC lists his children's names, their pictures and gives out the school's address. Concerned father!? Hardly
Melother January 13, 2013 at 05:07 AM
'Enough' is completely right!
User Name January 13, 2013 at 05:58 AM
And why are we not allowed to criticize his political views? When he criticizes anyone who he considers "liberal", just as you did in your post just now. So he can criticize, you can criticize, but others who hold political views different from yours can't... Now you're the one sounding like a Commissar....
Melother January 13, 2013 at 06:00 AM
@Kate...I think Thomas' foil hat has been on too long...and way too tight.
Matilda B January 13, 2013 at 02:19 PM
I think there is a difference between voicing opinions, well thought out or not, and voicing paranoid delusions and distortions. May I point out that when you see our political representatives interviewed, they do not talk about the commies coming or that they are coming to take your guns, or any other ridiculous notions. They tend to stick to the issues. Rush and Hannity and Jones have done more to damage our country, in conjunction with those like the Koch brothers. They are a threat to our nation and encourage violence against its citizens. And it is sad to note how many people are so gullible and fall for their rants and lies. Take the tin foil hats off and look around you. Get back into reality
Kev January 13, 2013 at 02:37 PM
We all view the world through different lenses, and we're all convinced that ours is the truth.
Matilda B January 13, 2013 at 02:49 PM
Some are more reality based than others.
Kev January 13, 2013 at 03:01 PM
I think you mean - 'some are more in line with my viewpoint than others'
Matilda B January 13, 2013 at 04:16 PM
No Kev, I'm talking about reality. I have no problem discussing political differences with others, but some people are just not in reality. Alex Jones is one example.
Kev January 13, 2013 at 04:28 PM
Haha, okay Matilda. I once saw a t-shirt that said, "My Reality is the RIGHT One" Bet it would fit you to a "t".
Kate Oakley January 13, 2013 at 05:28 PM
You were doing pretty well, until you got to Kommisars: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.answers.com/topic/commissar An official of the Communist Party in charge of political indoctrination and the enforcement of party loyalty. The head of a commissariat in the Soviet Union until 1946. A person who tries to control public opinion. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SERIOUSLY? Then you went all in with the crazy, continuing with "...Chicago liberal socialist Democrat diaspora..." and finished with "...their failed governing ideas and invade Geneva and the surrounding area...". Better to remain silent than to confirm to everyone that you're a "the commies are coming - the commies are coming!" 1950's McCarthy-era fool.
Ignacio Steen January 13, 2013 at 09:03 PM
Too bad miss BowLeggs isn't as worried about the welfare of Geneva's little ones as she is about her new buddy "Liar" McGroarty.
Ignacio Steen January 13, 2013 at 09:09 PM
"Drive-Thru-U" has the same laughable reputation as Wheaton "college" or Bob Jones "university," that is, any potential employer that does not realize the holder of a "degree" from these silly one-note orchestras has merely spent a lot of cash in the pursuit of a "diploma" that means absolutely ZIP in real-world knowledge. The sham "university" you are trumpeting had to close a full one-half of its "campuses" in 2012 because of allegations of impropriety in financial chicanery having to do with student-loans handled thru the government. It is a Ponzi scheme to fleece students of government-guaranteed educational funds, and nothing more.
EnoughAlready January 15, 2013 at 02:27 AM
Ignacio Steen... Wheaton College is a highly regarded college. In fact many, many financial firms, hedge funds, etc in the Chicago area higher Wheaton College graduates because of their high integrity, character and education. Get your facts straight before you start slandering a school!
Topsailsman January 28, 2013 at 09:49 PM
Dear "Enough Already", when you were defending the exemplary qualities of Wheaton graduates you said that businesses "highered" them. At the University I attended, we were taught to use "hired". But I guess you know quality...........
Pam Bollweg January 29, 2013 at 12:24 AM
To Top Sailsman (?) I guess that your job is sailing???? Anyway, what I want to say is that 1.) I'm guessing that Enough Already's spellcheck gave him or her an incorrect spelling of hire. 2.) Wheaton College is VERY highly regarded. If you don't believe me, simply Google "Wheaton College".

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