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Geneva School Board Caught Between Budget Rock, Teachers Contract Hard Place

The Geneva School Board approves a 2012-13 budget that calls for dipping into cash reserves on the same night teachers express further frustration over stalled talks.

On a night when School Board members approved a 2012-13 budget with a $3.9 million shortfall, teachers and tax watchdogs ratcheted their rhetoric over slow-moving contract negotiations and escalating teacher salaries.

Speaking during the comments portion of Monday night's School Board meeting, Geneva High School choral instructor Roxanne Curtis said Geneva teachers are "involved in a struggle to be regarded as professionals worthy of respect."

"I will not apologize for saying that I feel District 304 teachers have been dealt a slap in the face after all that we accomplish on a daily basis with our most precious resources: our students, your children," she said.

Teachers have been working without a contract since Aug. 15, receiving paychecks at the same rate as they were when the previous, three-year contract expired.

Geneva TaxFACTS co-founder Bob McQuillan countered by pointing out the salaries of some teachers who spoke at previous School Board meetings.

"With today’s release of the fiscal 2012 school year teachers salary, it is clear that the contract issue is all about money," he said.

McQuillan said that, of the 366 Geneva teachers who worked full time in both the 2011 and 2012 fiscal year, 266 received a one-year salary increase ranging from 4 percent to more than 20 percent.

The board heard from parents, as well, who spoke in support of the teachers. Jenny Scott said her family has had "the most amazing experiences with our teachers" and wanted to speak publicly on their behalf.

"We are not privy to negotiations," she said. "However, we do not feel that a zero percent increase is acceptable."

Later in the meeting, Assistant Superintendent of Finance Donna Oberg walked through the budget for fiscal 2012-13, with revenue assumptions that include a 1.5 percent increase in the Consumer Price Index, an increase in lunch and milk fees, general state aid at 89 percent proration and the reduction of a number of grants and state reimbursements.

In total, the expected 2012-13 revenues are $89,863,401 and expenditures are $93,774,463, for a shortfall of $3,911,062.

Some of that shortfall has to do with the two-year cycle of the District 304 bus buy-back program. The transportation budget sometimes will show a deficit one year and a surplus the next.

Much of the remainder of the $3.9 million shortfall includes payments for the construction of the new Burgess Field and technology upgrades approved by the Board of Education.

The 2012-13 shortfall is expected to reduce School District 304's reserves from about $57.04 million to about $53.14 million. Board members said the reserves are necessary to cover unexpected expenditures without borrowing and to maintain a favorable bond rating.

The 2012-13 budget includes a surplus in the Education Fund of $3.18 million that officials hope to apply toward its total principal and interest debt of more than $300 million.

"The upcoming freight train of our debt problem is something we have to keep an eye on," School Board member Mike McCormick said.

School Board Vice President Kelly Nowak, who chaired Monday night's meeting in the absence of board President Mark Grosso, encouraged audience members and stakeholders to "try not to think of this as an 'us' or 'them,' but as 'we.' "

She said the board is elected to represent all parties, including faculty and taxpayers.

"We’re trying to find balance," she said. "Sometimes on a knifeblade."

Jill September 27, 2012 at 01:10 pm
@Bob; I was waiting for you to comment, it was only a matter of time... No, I dont speak for cusd 304 teachers, I dont have really anything to do with them but some are my friends and neighbors. But, you really shouldnt be speaking for all Geneva taxpayers either. Its common sense that all people want the best for themselves, which is a raise, particularly when the cost of everything in this world is increasing. . It has been reported that 200 teachers showed up at the last board meeting-Im sure the ones that didnt show up was probably due to family obligations not because they dont support a cause that would benefit them or because they are closet taxfacts members.
You have to know that people are attracted to come here because it is an upper middle class town with good schools. It seems to me that if you are complaining about your property taxes so much Mr Q, then you should perhaps move to a community where it is less. Do you and your taxfacts buddies want to keep taxes low in Geneva and attract non-desirables to come live here? I sure dont want that. I am glad to pay property taxes here so that Geneva stays a safe, attractive community comprised of professional people, whether that money goes to our policemen or teachers, I dont care .Both are doing a fine job and it shows.
Lou B. September 27, 2012 at 04:39 pm
I'm sorry Chris and Jill, but your research, and assumptions are invalid. I suggest you email or call this "Drendel" person in Kaneland and ask him/her if you've got the right party. Poor fellow, doesn't even know how he's being slandered by your false assumptions. Better luck next time. By the way, there is a "Chris" working in Aurora and one in Elgin and one in Naperville. I know that you are her, or him, whatever.... LOL.
Bob McQuillan September 27, 2012 at 05:17 pm
Jill please listen to yourself. Now your story is " the ones that didnt show up was probably due to family obligations not because they dont support a cause that would benefit them or because they are closet taxfacts members." That makes all the sense in the world, everyone single teacher thinks that they deserve a salary increase every year. Click your heels and repeat, there is no place like home.
"But, you really shouldnt be speaking for all Geneva taxpayers either" - I have never claimed to speak for "all Geneva taxpayers" and never would. GenevaTaxFacts was started 4 years ago to educate the community on how the taxing bodies developed their budgets and thus property taxes. Like it or not, that is what we have done. "It seems to me that if you are complaining about your property taxes so much Mr Q, then you should perhaps move to a community where it is less. Do you and your taxfacts buddies want to keep taxes low in Geneva and attract non-desirables to come live here?" What a very nice thing to say about your neighbors. So that's your solution - everyone concerned about property taxes should just move. Again, makes all the sense in the world. Geneva taxes are not "low" but at least GenevaTaxFACTS is trying to keep them reasonable so that we all can continue to live in the town that we all love. Throwing us out of town is not an option that you have control over. Thank God. Have a good day!
Jill September 27, 2012 at 06:27 pm
@Bob: I understand the point of your frugal organization and I appreciate your efforts in educating Geneva's residents who have no idea where every single penny of their tax dollars are going. However, preventing the increase of property taxes when all other communities are increasing their taxes on an annual basis is going to make Geneva a haven for undesirables. I hate to sound like a snob, but it is true! We all moved to Geneva because it is a beautiful town rich in history, character and good people. Do you want to turn Geneva into some of our other not so great communities like West Chicago( where property taxes are lower but their are many shady individuals living there)? I fear that making our town less competitive with other upper middle class towns in suburban Chicago will sink us into a hole that we wont be able to get out of. So what if our property taxes increase $500 or so a year?! Big deal! I think its a small price to pay in the grand scheme of things...
Chris September 27, 2012 at 06:41 pm
Way to go Jill! Maybe Bob, the cheapskate, would be happier in Elgin....I heard it's beautiful this time of year. Geneva is a town with a great reputation. Bob's plan would bring us in line with some of the crap towns in the area. No Thanks!
David S Kapfhamer September 27, 2012 at 07:33 pm
Read to the bottom this excerpt from Yahoo Sports, if anyone doubts what value qualified personnel bring. If you want to put your children's future in the hands of "replacement teachers" have fun with that.
Ed Hochuli and his fellow referees will be back to work Thursday after a three-month lockout. (AP)Football fans will chuckle at this, as "Hochules" is well-known for his buff physique. He does an hour of cardio and an hour of weights four times a week, even at age 62. But behind the jokes is a very serious truth that makes his workout routine appropriate for the moment: Hochuli and his fellow officials have broken the will of the NFL in large part because of their underestimated ability to prepare, prepare, prepare. Few understood when this replacement referee mess began how uniquely qualified the actual NFL officials were to do their jobs. Hochuli and other "zebras" were dismissed by many as "part-time" workers. This annoyed Hochuli to no end, as he spent hours upon hours over his 20-year NFL career studying for his three hours on the field. The idea that he showed up every Sunday, threw on the stripes, a whistle and controlled destinies was insulting to him. The "anyone can do this job" barb calls to mind an even more taken-for-granted group of "part-time" workers: teachers.
Lou B. September 27, 2012 at 09:36 pm
PAT L SAYS... "...Ms. Curtis lives in Geneva. If you hire someone for that there is great chance that they will not be living in Geneva and contributing to the community. "
Unfortunately, PAT L, Ms. Curtis -actually- lives in Batavia. I invite you to check off the items (your own list) that Ms. Curtis participates in to 'contribute' to Geneva. 1) Does she coach GBA 2) Does she coach Tri-City Soccer 3) Does she purchase Geneva Park District passes. 4) Does she go to a Geneva church? 5) Does she do all of her shopping in Geneva, and not Batavia? Even IF Ms. Curtis spent all day spending money and volunteering in Geneva, market rate for labor has never been tied to something as nebulous as an employees place of residence (unlike the schools that a person is forced to fund). In this case, market rate for her labor has simply been a function of Geneva Teacher's Union muscle and intimidation. A free market for her labor would yield an entirely more rational approach and would not be to terribly discriminatory towards young teachers, many of whom would to the same work, or more for 1/2 the taxpayer outlay.
Katherine September 27, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Max, I am trying to understand your comment about being frustrated that working professionals do not want a 3 year pay freeze. You are complaining that you have not gotten a raise for 10-15 years, yet you are... retired? So, you are angry because you have not gotten a raise because you are not actually working?
Yes, taxes are going up. And (in the long run) so are your property values. If you do not want to pay the increasing property taxes, that is your choice--then downsize or move. Finally, something I don't think the public understands regarding teacher pensions... The funding for teacher pensions comes FROM TEACHER'S PAYCHECKS. It is usually around or above 10% of each pay check. Show me the typical 22 year old who has invested 10% for a 30+ year career. My guess is that they have a pretty fantastic retirement plan. All of the rhetoric out there about how the State is "paying" for teacher pensions? Well of course they are-- teachers are public (aka State) employees! True, teachers do have a more consistent salary than some other professions in the free market. While this is something some members of the public apparently pounce on in a bad market, this also means that when the markets are amazingly good, teachers do not make more- they make the same, steady amount. The typical pension for a teacher in the state of IL is around $40K a year, [after 30 years of work] NOT the hundreds of thousands you hear about in the papers.
Lou B. September 27, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Sorry Pat, your insults won't trump logic. You have entirely nothing, no statistics, not historical evidence, nothing at all on which to base your opinion. When people start calling one 'mean' because they disagree with clearly erroneous statements, it's time to end the discussion.
Paul Bryant September 27, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Average salary over 72K, cadillac benefit package, excellent work environment with involved parents and motivated students handed to them, job security.
Let's try the other side. Residents with decreasing property values, increasing property taxes, a stagnant economy, facing 300+ million in debt, and a group of union workers that insists on getting more. Now tell me again who's being taken for granted?
Maverick September 28, 2012 at 01:18 am
Silly David. There is a world of difference between NFL officials striking and teachers.
NFL owners are negotiating with their own money,
David S Kapfhamer September 28, 2012 at 11:43 am
How do the owners get their money? From the fans who buy tickets. Stay focused on the point. By the way, economy is better for those who excel in it.
Sue J September 28, 2012 at 02:13 pm
Pat L yes I feel that the accountability is at the feet of the school board. They created this mess and now that have to get everyone out of it. While they weren't minding the store the teachers enjoyed a great windfall. Now the board is getting backlash from the residents and hopefully will take action. Action that was needed a long time ago. Unfortunately, for the teachers they can't just take their windfall and move on. They want more. There is no more.
Sue J September 28, 2012 at 03:05 pm
Pat L how much is too much for teacher's salaries? You don't think making 100K plus for 8.5 months of work is enough? Where will it end? 200K, 300K? I am sure glad you have the resources to help pay because a lot other residents don't.
In a truly free market the market sets the price for fair wages. We don't have that. We are being held hostage. I do agree that the administrators have feel the pain as well. Their salaries are out of control as well.
Sue J September 28, 2012 at 05:17 pm
Pat L are you sure that your children attend school in Geneva? I don't think parents are calling the teachers at home all the time. I have never called any of my children's teachers at home. Honestly, most of the time the teachers that my children have are not even around after school for help. Everyone works hard not just teachers. Teachers are just part of the equation of helping a child to be a productive citizen. Lets give some credit to the parents that help with homework each night when they don't understand how it was explained in class or pay for tutoring or ACT prep classes, etc. My children are not the human beings they are now because of their teachers. Please get over your God complex with teachers. The are human beings like the rest of us. They can't save lives.
Everyone not just teachers have to be pay for health insurance and probably more than what the teachers have to pay. Pension - what pension? I don't know many people out in the non goverment sector that still get pensions. If they still do they are lucking. I can tell you they are nowhere near 75% of their pay. All of us non government schleps have to save for ourselves. Oh I am sorry we do get a 401K match of hopefully 5% but sometimes that is taken away in hard years and sometimes it is never restored. That doesn't come even close to what teaches get in retirement.
Sue J September 28, 2012 at 05:18 pm
cont'd Pat L, and yes, being a tax payer does give me a right to scrutinize my tax dollars. That is the price you pay when you work in the government sector. If the teachers don't like it they could try working for a private school but I think you know that wouldn't happen - not enough pay, pension or benefits.
Sue J September 28, 2012 at 05:54 pm
Pat L I do have kids currently in 304, and yes, I have asked teachers for help.I have gotten positive responses and negative responses. Teachers are average human beings like te rest of us. The beauty of America is that I can have my opinion and you can have yours. I have come to the conclusion that you are one of the lucky ones that have not been affected by the recession. Lucky for you..
Mav September 28, 2012 at 06:24 pm
The difference is that the teachers are negotiating for public funds. If NFL ticket prices are too high - I just don't go to a game. That's not how it works with public sector unions.
Maybe this will make it more clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyNlJUKgug
Mav September 28, 2012 at 06:25 pm
The truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyNlJUKgug
Sue J September 28, 2012 at 06:26 pm
I am sorry that your pay cuts and 401K drop have not affected you very much. For some it is harder. I have 18 plus years of experience in my field and I have to take a pay freeze for 5 years so far. Right now teachers have to pitch in like everyone else. They should not be above a pay freeze.
Just because you have 18 years of experience doesn't automatically make you a good teacher.
Mike September 29, 2012 at 02:26 am
Best-selling author and pastor Rick Warren describes the three levels of living as the survival level, the success level and the significance level of living. The difference between these levels he says is, “Have you figured out what on earth am I here for?” A deep, philosophical question, I know. However, I believe that not until a person really takes the time to stop and think about the deep reaching impact of this statement, does one’s life truly take on significance in both meaning and purpose.
Mike September 29, 2012 at 02:26 am
How exactly does a person get from survival to success and from success to significance? And are many of us confusing success with significance and thinking that the two terms are interchangeable? I don’t believe for a minute that a person ever really makes it to the significance level of living just by showing up for work every day and doing a good job – which many people do. Sure employers like people who perform their job well and make their organizations prosper. Everyone loves the person who is the life of the party and puts a smile on everyone’s face. But are those kinds of people truly living a life of significance? I believe that significance doesn’t come from status, sex or salary – it comes from serving. It is in giving our life away that we find meaning. It is how we are wired, I believe by God.
Mike September 29, 2012 at 02:26 am
Every human being has been entrusted with a very unique and specific skill set. All of us possess certain gifts, talents, abilities, backgrounds, education, wealth, opportunities, networks, ideas, creativity… The question is, “What are we going to do with what we’ve been given?” Have you figured out, “What on earth are you here for?” Let me challenge us all to do something that matters. Make a significant contribution. Don’t be satisfied with living a successful life for yourself – GIVE TO OTHERS! Every time you do, you break the grip of materialism in your own life by placing value on people over possessions – that is living a life of significance!
Mike September 29, 2012 at 02:27 am
I think Winston Churchill may have said it best when he said, “We make a living by what we do, but we make a life by what we give.”
I love my job and giving my best to my students each day. I enjoy their enthusiasm and their limitless potential. And while I am honored and humbled to be called a teacher in D304, teaching is only a part of who I am. I have the higher honor of being a husband to my wife and a father to our children. I owe much of my success to their sacrifice and support and allowing me to do what I do each day for students. For this I am truly grateful. It is my hope that each of my own children comes to understand that their value doesn’t lie in their valuables and that their net worth doesn’t equal their self-worth. If nothing else, I hope I have given them the foundation on which to build their own life of real significance. My two cents…Mike Graham
Dwight Swartwood September 29, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Where do you think people will want to move to? A nice town with good schools and reasonable taxes? Or, a nice town with good schools and high taxes? It may be time to think ahead.
Max October 5, 2012 at 12:50 am
Katherine wrote, elsewhere:
> You are complaining that you have not gotten a raise for 10-15 years, yet you are retired? I'm not "complaining" at all. That's a behavior we associate with union members who wish to get more money even while the people who pay them are getting less. I write in defense of those whose incomes are shrinking, esp. from the wide-spread and destructive effects of job-loss in families with children. > If you do not want to pay increasing property taxes...move. What a noble suggestion. But surrender is not in our nature. The expectation that property values will in the foreseeable future climb significantly is naive. Did you invest in Geneva because you expected values to decline? How do you account for your mis-reading of those tea leaves? But one thing is certain: if and when property values do rise again, taxes will also -- because that is the double-bind which legislatures and Public Employee Unions put on a docile and uninformed public. > [T]eachers are public...employees [and] have a more > consistent salary than some other professions.... > [T]his also means that when the markets > are...good, teachers do not make more. Au contraire. Teachers begin at the earliest opportunity to threaten their communities with withdrawals of service in order to get more and more and more on top of an already bloated compensation package -- because that is what Public Employee unions do.
Max October 5, 2012 at 12:53 am
Katherine,
I remind you that the funding for teacher pensions comes from teachers' paychecks ONLY IF THE INVESTMENT RETURN IS HIGH ENOUGH TO COVER PENSION COMMITMENTS. Otherwise it comes from the tax-payers, who you also seem to have forgotten wrote those teachers' paychecks in the first place, to include that hefty percentage which finds its way into Teachers' ever-expanding retirement packages.
McDole Drendel October 10, 2012 at 05:37 pm
It has come to my attention that there are comments being made by someone who has the exact same name as me. I am the Andy Drendel who teaches in the Kaneland School District and I am not the one who has left any comments regarding anything on any article on this website. I've never even visited this site before today and I've never left any comments regarding anything that has to do with the Geneva School District or the School Board. I DO NOT appreciate the comments that have been made regarding my career in teaching or my salary (which I know isn't a whole lot). Please respect my privacy and understand that anyone posting under the moniker "AndyDrendel" is not me. Thank you
Rick Nagel (Editor) October 10, 2012 at 06:45 pm
I deleted a comment aimed at Andy Drendel, the Kaneland School District teacher. The frequent commenter under the username Andy Drendel is not the Kaneland teacher.
Max October 29, 2012 at 04:03 pm
If you can't see the irony in "Hail to the Chief" being played for both Jefferson Davis and Barack Obama, thank a teacher.

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