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Geneva School Board Votes 7-0 to Tear Down Coultrap
The decision is difficult, but despite pleas for more time to come up with an adaptive reuse of the 1923 school building, board members are unanimous in their decision that the Coultrap building must fall.
All seven Geneva School Board members said with reluctance Monday night that the historic Coultrap building has to be torn down.
Board members rejected the notion of saving even the portion of the building that dates back to 1923, saying the costs associated with any sort of adaptive reuse of the structure simply were prohibitive.
Here are their comments:
Mark Grosso
"When I ran for the board I was pretty sure I wanted to have students in Coultrap," the Geneva School Board president said.
But as he became more involved in the Facilities Task Force and made inspections of the building, he came to know it was a lost cause. Grosso said the decision was anything but sudden. The district spent $10,000 in architectural consulting to find alternative uses, he said.
Grosso said the district is spending $69,000 a year—conservatively—for simple maintenance, and it would cost an additional $1.6 million "to keep the doors open."
"For me, personally, I would rather see that $70,000 go to our classrooms. I would rather see that $1.6 million used to pay off part of our debt, or I would rather see that money applied to technology or some other positive asset we can bring to our students," he said. "When I weighed the (issues), there were just more negatives than positives."
Kelly Nowak
The School Board vice president said she lives in a 100-year-old Geneva home, values historic preservation and appreciates what it takes to maintain a historic building. She also said she has an emotional attachment to the Coultrap building because her three daughters went to school there.
"I’ve tried every way I can think of to make a case for saving (Coultrap)," she said. "But very regrettably I have to concur that this building does need to come down."
Nowak gave a "heads up" to preservationists that the Fourth Street building might have to come down, as well, because it would take "another half-million (dollars) for the building to be viable."
"If there’s someone who really has a feel for that, now might be the time to get your ducks in a row," she said.
Mike McCormick
The first-term School Board member agreed that Geneva's history is one of the aspects that makes the community special.
"This stinks, it really does," he said. "But I’m looking at the numbers. Coultrap is our past, and our children are our future ... I think we’ve got to look toward tomorrow and not yesterday."
Mary Stith
The former School Board president who has been on the board since 2003 said officials have been talking about what to do with the Coultrap building for years, examined multiple scenarios for its sale or renovation and didn't have enough consensus to take action.
With the election coming up April 9, and with four seats open on the seven-member board, a delay now could result in more years of cost and delay.
"The reason we’ve taken all these years is because we didn’t want to make this decision," she said. "A new board will take at least a year to adjust and learn, (and) I’m not going to saddle them with a tough decision ... I do care about preservation, but I have a responsibility to the students here as well as the community."
Tim Moran
"I guess I will make it a reluctant majority," said Moran, who is not seeking re-election in April.
Moran said both his children attended elementary school at Coultrap, and he has many fond memories of the place, including building the "jail" for the PTO Fun Fair.
"We’ve been looking at this for over a year-and-a-half now, and I came into this as more of an advocate," he said. "(But) I also have an obligation to fulfill."
Moran said, for him, the decision was whether to spend money on a building or on students. "And if that's the case, I’m voting with the students every time," he said.
Matt Henry
Henry, who also is not seeking re-election, said the memories of the building will live on in the people who attended school.
"The community that we shared in this building — none of that goes away," he said. "None of that has been diminished."
Bill Wilson
Wilson remembered walking into the building for the first time when he was a sixth-grader in 1972.
"I have lots of memories about this building," he said. "Where the audience is now used to be the wood shop."
Wilson is also, by profession, a licensed structural engineer. He said that, back in 2005, the board studied Coultrap as a possible expansion of the high school for ninth-graders. Even then, the school could not handle the huge amount of electricity needed to power a modern facility, and the walls of the 1923 building "were leaning outward on the third floor."
Wilson emphasized that selling the property or leasing it for a period of time wouldn't work, because ultimately the space will be needed for expansion of the high school.
"We will not—I repeat, we will not—sell this facility, because we need the ground this facility sits on," he said.
Two Voices From the Audience
Two audience members spoke against the Coultrap demolition during the public comments period that immediately follows the Pledge of Allegiance.
Carolyn Givens, 101 Sandholm St., reiterated comments she had made in an earlier appeal to the Geneva City Council to intervene in the demolition plans.
Givens said the School District came up with four options regarding Coultrap—three of which involved moving the Fourth Street administrative offices into the Coultrap facility.
"Option No. 5, which I would like to present, is to save the old Coultrap Building and demolish the new additions," she said. "The structure has been here for 90 years. It’s worth saving."
Geneva History Center Executive Director Terry Emma pointed out that the Pure Oil Building was slated for demolition, but now has been nominated to the National Register of Historic Places after planners went back to the drawing board and came up with an adaptive reuse.
"As we’ve seen in the Pure Oil Building discussions, it wasn’t supposed to survive, and now it’s thriving," she said. "Please give us more time. I’m asking for you to give this more thought. ... If you make this decision tonight, there’s no going back."
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Rudy
7:05 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Sorry to see no better decision could have been made by this shallow group. I remember what poor condition the old Howell facility was and now it looks great and is still quite viable. I hope we can vote in a stronger group in the future.
dr
8:09 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I disagree, Rudy. I think they made a tough, but correct, decision.
Elizabeth King
8:24 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Nobody seems to have addressed the issue of what will replace the building in the short term or the long term. As a property owner directly across the street, it seems that the demolition will be devastating to the neighborhood and most likely lower the property values, and there has been no discussion of that. I hope they aren't thinking of making another parking lot for students. I did not speak up and I am sorry, however it seems the school board had decided long ago to tear it down, with no thought about the effect it would have on the community around it.
Kevin Brouillette
6:30 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
^Yes, It's good to hear a property owner's perspective. I don't think anyone who was involved in this decision process would have voted yes had it been across the street from their property, both for the inconvenience and property value aspects.
Todd
11:11 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
So, a vacant/abandoned school adds more to your property value than a park (or even parking lot)? I think that you need a new real estate agent, Ms. King.
Elmer Elmer
8:33 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
What a surprise i never thought they would vote that way...NOT! It is clear that this board does not care about this city and its history, it is only concerned about making sure that our children have a place to park their cars. Hopefully the seats will be filled with someone that really cares about this community.
Kevin Brouillette
6:28 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I agree with you Elmer to some extent. It is outrageous that every high school student feels entitled to driving their car to school EVERY day. Not only is this wasteful, there simply is not enough space. Kids should be car pooling a lot more, people should take advantage of the free bust service and that would solve a lot of problems. I've seen kids parking as far away as Stevens st. from the High School and kids parking in the Burgess Norton MFG parking lot. What's the point?
Todd
11:09 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Mr. Brouillette. Coultrap will make a nice memorial parking lot, I think.
Sue J
10:24 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Very disappointed in the decision. Just another new is better mentality.
Todd
10:58 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
GCUSD already has enough elementary schools that we should already be closing one that was just built a few years ago. Blame former legacy-building boards and superintendents for this. The Geneva taxpayer is paying the bill and the board finally made a good decision.
Rudy
1:01 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
If they are just going to throw it away why not give the building and surrounding 300 by 300 or property away. I would rather see someone try and do something with it than destroy it. That piece would be useless for expansion as it too far away so I am told. Maybe sell that strip for High density housing that would be a good idea and close to town. I vote give it to shodeen at least he will try and do something and if he fails he can pay the million to demolition it. I hope they remove the lead, asbestos and mercury before they start breaking the walls and infecting the neighborhood. We need to check with the EPA before the debris starts flying anyway I would hate to see asbestos clouds next to school children! Remember it isn't a problem until you start messing with it. I hope they at least warn us before demolition so we can remove our kids from harms way.
Todd
11:03 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Oh THE CHILDREN breathing asbestos!!! Another lame argument for everything that I have heard. Obviously Asbestos abatement is part of any demolition. Who told you it would be useless as expansion? Do tell us all mighty Rudy, or are you just committed to hearsay? It certainly might make a good parking lot as GHS expands onto the old football field between the two old schools.
Mitotero
1:17 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Every landmark that we lose takes away part of what makes Geneva unique. While we are saving a little tax dollars now, $70k wow, we are giving up on maintaining the Geneva we know for the future. Do we really want a town full of new, sterile buildings? This building shouldn't be preserved for memories. It should be preserved for what it is. A beautiful architectural gem that cannot be reproduced. While the school board voted to be fiscally responsible, it is amazing that few Genevans turned out to save Coultrap. What a sad ending for a wonderful building. Geneva seems to believe that progress is taking the cheapest, easiest, path. If we continue, we will have a town with no character or soul, but the taxes will still be high.
kqx
2:25 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
^ I think you're being a little dramatic.
Sue J
3:29 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
It is not dramatic. I agree. Now at this time they finally decide to be fiscally responsible. Wish that would have happened a couple of new schools ago.
Kevin Brouillette
6:25 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
I agree, everything we remove from Geneva makes it all the less unique. This applies to every town or city. It is important to consider practical use for each structure that is removed. I do believe there could be a practical use for the building, however not by the school district.
Todd
11:05 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Give be a break. That school doesn't look anything like its "historic self" since the late 70s when they replaced all of the windows in the old part of the school. That school (and probably 60+% of it was built in that architecturally significant era of the 1970s) has no character.
kqx
4:02 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
When mitotero says "Do we really want a town full of new, sterile buildings?" Um, I don't think we're talking about razing the entire historic district. We're talking about 1 obsolete building that isn't particularly special, architecturally speaking.
Yes, a lot of us have fond memories of going to school there - but life goes on, folks.
Kevin Brouillette
6:24 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
You should really be using your real name on this site if you want to be credible. The structure is not obsolete, it is a sold structure. As a building it is obsolete because the money was not invested over time.
Kevin Brouillette
6:19 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
We wouldn't have these problems had the school district maintained the building in the first place. And how much may I ask is it going to cost to tear down this structure? I bet it will cost a lot more than $70k to tear down. How about the people who live in this neighborhood?
Rudy
7:52 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
They estimated almost 1 million to tear it down they could maintain it for 12 years for the cost to demolish it. They just want it gone so they can try and build something new. Nothing but the best and newest for our spoiled little darling's. I used to drive 4 to 6 kids to school with me every day it paid my gas money.
Todd
10:44 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013
This place was a pit when I was a student over 20 years ago. We all called it "Cold Crap" for a reason. Don't get sentimental -- tear it down, already! To bring it back up to standard would cost at least $16M -- it is, by far, a more prudent choice than keeping it. I went to GHS, as well. Where were all the preservationists when they built the "school for the 21st century" just about 10 years ago? That school looks nothing like the school that I attended -- and I don't care that it doesn't. Get over it. Because your grandmother once attended school there should your granddaughter also? No.
Sue J
9:55 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013
Todd get over yourself. People are just voicing their opinions and you just seem to dismiss them with your own negative rant. You really should invest your energy somewhere else.
Elizabeth King
7:49 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
Asbestos is a REAL problem having owned a building in the city that was full of it. Coultrap was a great building and my children went to school there until they were ripped out of there and sent to a new school. They did not need to build all the new schools and waste all that money. The vintage facade of the building and park like setting is visually appealing to the neighborhood and contributes to the historic feel of Geneva. I agree the back of the building is not attractive, but the original front building is historic and should have been spared and reused in a society that is slowly learning the importance of the environment. Our spoiled kids with their fancy cars should take the bus. They do not need another parking lot! I understand that at some point the school district will use that property to expand the high school, but in the meantime, how about a nice park. Oh and Todd I am not selling, just a concerned homeowner who isn't looking forward to dust and demolition within 100 feet of our home, or viewing a concrete slab outside the window, instead of trees.
Jacob Chally
11:32 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013
The plans for the High School expansion (which I still have as a pdf file on my computer) showed the north additions to Coultrap being torn down, and the original building being renovated to house the District Central Offices. But, the actual High School expansion was not going to reach as far as the Coultrap land. Instead, guess what was going to go where the additions to Coultrap currently stand? That's right! A Parking Lot! And the bus circle was to be relocated to the South Side of the School, because where the Buses go now, a new gym was to be built there. So just to break the bad news to everyone who is complaining about the Coultrap land becoming a Parking Lot, it will happen, sadly. And if the High School ever expands, be prepared for a lot more traffic.